Southern Nationalists have quite a few detractors. The U.S. Government, Bowl Patrol LARPers, Patriot Threepers (aka, Militia Members), White Nationalists, and, of course, Marxists. Three are irrelevant in the modern world: the U.S. Government, Bowl Patrol LARPers, and Threepers. Two, on the other hand, are legitimate threats to Southern Nationalists for similar reasons which I will cover further in this piece: White Nationalists and Marxists. This article breaks down those who hate us for seeking a peaceful separation of the South and the establishment of an Independent Dixie.
Let me begin with the largest but not necessarily the strongest of enemy of Southern Nationalism, the U.S. Government.
The U.S. Government monitors all of us closely because we are supposedly members of the “greatest threat” to the peace and security of the United States – the broader White Nationalist movement. They may have a point. The last time Southern Nationalism arose to prominence, there was a peaceful attempt to use our Constitutional right to secede. The U.S. Government chose extraordinary violence to suppress that Constitutional right. Still, the real reason that the USG considers Southern Nationalism a threat has nothing to do with the potential for secession. They are quite confident that the South would never choose secession and Southerners are fully conquered.
Rather, the USG takes advice from intellectually empty, Far Left radical entities like the SPLC and the ADL. Neither them, nor their broad coalition of leftist activists, are remotely capable of understanding Southern Nationalism, or even sectional nationalism in general. Consequently, the USG is blinded by their allies as to gaining a genuine perspective on that which has often been lumped in with “Neo-Confederacy.” Emotion blinds the Left from a general understanding of the movements they so despise.
Regardless, West Coast communists have proven that the U.S. Government is no longer powerful. It is a hollowed shell. The weakness of the American government has been on full display for the world to watch for weeks. The Communist Chinese must have giggled through acting DHS Secretary Chad Wolf’s absurd assertion in front of Congress that White Nationalism constitutes the greatest threat to the peace and security of the United States. I would not expect another Appomattox from a government that cannot defend a courthouse from skinny jean wearing, gender confused soy-boys. If you are a bureaucrat in Washington, DC, I suspect you are likely working on behalf of foreign adversaries you assume will eventually conquer the country, hoping to secure a future for your family as a technocrat on behalf of the PRC. The United States is dead.
As for Bowl Patrol LARPers, they dislike us because we disavow violence as a means toward achieving our goals – except as a last resort, in legal self-defense. They want us to own Dylann Roof. I stand by my position that Roof was a complete pussy who chose a soft target instead of manning up for his people – if that was his actual goal – and targeting the meth or opioid dealer who devastate our people daily. But, these two groups are irrelevant.
But let’s be real, Bowl Patrol – a bunch of keyboard commandos who screech autistically online about “RaHoWa” – are mostly federal agents trying to inspire acts of violence by guys like the “Wolverine Watchmen” (which turned out to be a bunch of weirdo leftist characters affiliated with Black Lives Matter). In essence, Bowl Patrol and the U.S. Government are two meaningless enemies of Southern Nationalism that will be gone in about twenty years.
“Threepers” hate us because they are brutally misguided. They love America and the Constitution. They love Trump. They are MAGA all the way, and they will tell you how non-racist they are. They love Lincoln and the fact that the Union stopped Southern secession. To them, Southern Nationalists are evil for their desire to split up the country and our purported racism. If they really looked at things clearly, they would know the Constitution died with Lincoln’s violent annulment of a Constitutionally “guaranteed” governance by consent. Regardless, the Constitution has saved no one from the ever-encroaching power over the people by the federal government.
Additionally, militia members really hate racists. They cannot see that demographic displacement of Heritage Americans has led to the political position within which they now find themselves. The fact is, minorities are generally not Constitutionalists because they have no investment in the current status quo. Record low black unemployment by the Trump Administration is not going to change that fact. Whether genetically or by conditioning, blacks do not care nearly as much about things like freedoms of religion, speech, or even due process, as Whites do. Enter Hispanics into the mix and you have a coalition that is designed to supplant White society – which by extension, is the very Constitutional framework upon which almost all militia members ground their loyalty.
Of course, none of this anti-racism on their part has won them any distinction from leftists. Neither Kyle Rittenhouse nor the Wolverine Watchmen were spared the racism charge. Both have been lumped in with White Supremacists. Nothing about Rittenhouse was remotely racist. He seems to be an all-American kid who misguidedly walked into a bad situation to help a friend. The Wolverine Watchmen, meanwhile, were BLM supporters who hated Trump (as well as all forms of government). The Patriot Prayer and Proud Boys – both on the edge of threeper-dom – are similarly racially agnostic. It does not matter. We are bad because we want to preserve our genetic lineage.
Finally, as it pertains to militia members, they are another group that will soon disappear. I suspect that they will be rounded up – one by one – thanks in no small part to the very red flag laws that Donald Trump has championed. There is a reason that most militia members are allowed to maintain a continued presence on mainstream social media: evidence. I envision the police coming to their “Blue Lives Matter” flag adorned homes and taking their guns one by one. The militia members will thank the police for their service while condemning the unconstitutionality of a judge’s orders.
However, there are two other groups that despise Southern Nationalists which are more relevant: White Nationalists and Marxists.
White Nationalists and Marxists hate us for the same reason. Southern Nationalists represent the perpetuation of a distinct people. Neither ideological concept can survive if ethnic distinctions successfully endure. Whereas I have nothing personally against White Nationalism per se, the idea that all Whites have the same interests is preposterous. Issues related to faith, culture, gender norms, food, art, linguistics, and societal interaction – to scratch the surface – are very different among White peoples. Our diversity is the fact that we, European and Euro-Americans, are distinct regionally. We have some shared values and skin tone, but for the most part, we are different. A Southerner probably has more in common with a Polish Nationalist than a generic White Nationalist from New Jersey.
This is something that is hard for myopic entities to appreciate. Southern Nationalists disavow amalgamated White identity. White Nationalism is entirely predicated on the assumed collective interests of European-originated peoples. While I wish all of my White brothers and sisters well, we do not see eye-to-eye on a vast number of issues. Assuming that a White ethno-state can survive on the basis of race versus heritage and genetic construct is preposterous. I have very little in common with a Nordic descendant raised in the upper Midwest. In fact, these are the same people who made the deleterious impacts of multiculturalism possible. They made Ilhan Omar possible. White Yankees ended segregation.
But, the real problem with White Nationalists are those who lead that movement. They are charlatans. How do I know? They still enjoy the luxury of charging for their content by means of mainstream finance platforms like Pay Pal. In an era within which Rittenhouse’s attorneys cannot keep a legal defense fund on a popular crowd funding platform, somehow our detractors can still openly utilize these same platforms to spread White Nationalist content. We have been forced to embrace Hawala while they take credit cards.
Worse, however, is their desire to harm the lives of Southern Nationalists. Because we will not subjugate ourselves to their gelatinous form of identity, they target the very same people they claim to serve: fellow Whites. One individual – someone who claimed white identity was crucial to their national origin make-up – has even led a doxing campaign against those with whom they used to personally interact with. Their White Nationalist ideology is the driving force behind their motivation. We know this person personally. But, I digress. The point is, such individuals should not be trusted and the broader White Nationalist movement is full of such individuals. Alliances of like-minded Ethnic Nationalists are fine but unifying under a single bloc is a pipe dream. I can support Hungarian Nationalists without demanding their fealty to Dixie.
The final group to identify is the easiest and long term, the greatest threat to Southern Nationalism. Marxists of all stripes – from neoconservative Republicans to Maoists – cannot endure the continuation of distinct Nations. Tribalism is anathema to the compelled collective. This is why groups like Black Lives Matter hate the nuclear family. This is why neoconservative Republicans push globalized capitalism over national interest. Distinct peoples make collectivism impossible.
The irony of the so-called Marxist-inspired “Resistance” is that it enjoys the full support of the U.S. Government, monied elites, and big corporations. They are not resisting anything. AntiFa is the Establishment.
The problem for the higher elites in Western society is that they firmly believe they can control the beast they unleashed. The original goal was to ensure no manifestation of national identity coalesced into a successful movement. White Nationalist content producers are allowed to thrive because elites know they will never succeed. Southern Nationalism, on the other hand, has the potential to erode confidence in the status quo among a core component of global capitalism: potential military recruits. If Southern Nationalist messages resonate among young Southerners, the potential for their volunteer military service diminishes. This is likely the reason that the military has taken a sudden anti-Southern turn and has sped up its goals to recruit more minorities. Something is changing in Southern boys as evidenced in the missed recruitment goals of the Department of Defense in the once dependable South. They will need black boys to die overseas moving forward and have adjusted their strategy to get them.
Going back to Marxists, the problem for elites is that they do not understand that Marxists actually believe their own rhetoric. The notion that they will survive a future purge after dissidents are dispatched is laughable. Such elites never do. The Communist Party apparatchik in China and their businessmen allies form the entirety of China’s multi-millionaires. They were not born to multigenerational elite families. They are descendants of Mao’s henchmen and now serve as Xi’s guard.
Marxists, however, now have full reign in the United States and as such, any discussion of non-Marxist inspired balkanization must be crushed. Thus, we are the most dangerous enemy to their goals. The U.S. Government and by extension, the majority of their agents or patsies calling themselves Bowl Patrol, are not a threat to Marxists. Threepers and non-racially aligned militias will effectively hang themselves. White Nationalists have proven themselves to be the latest iteration of controlled opposition. They are a flag upon which Marxists can rally occasional fundraisers and boogeymen. But, Southern Nationalists are different.
Southern Nationalists are not paid for their content; they are believers in the cause. Southern Nationalists have suffered tremendous personal discomfort and loss, yet they have not relented. In fact, if anything, every dox has come with a renewed commitment to keep going. Balkanization talk is growing throughout the United States and the seeds of that balkanization were ideologically sown by the Fire Eaters of the mid-19th Century. The roots of their words are now blooming thanks to an expansion of the Overton Window we have helped facilitate through targeting the Southern zeitgeist.
With every Confederate monument they tear down, a thousand new Southern Nationalists are born. With every company they target for non-conformity, a thousand new Southern Nationalists are born. With every young Southern boy whom they mock for his patriotism, as he returns to his native soil in a body bag from a foreign war, a thousand new Southern Nationalists are born. And, I will do my part to make thousands more despite those who hate us.
The son of a recent Irish immigrant and another with roots to Virginia since 1670. I love both my Irish and Southern Nations with a passion. Florida will always be my country. Dissident support here: Padraig Martin is Dixie on the Rocks (buymeacoffee.com)
I think “White Nationalist” and Marxism is pretty much interchangeable. Marxism is the religion of death, and when WN praise people going around shooting people in the midst of prayer there isn’t a difference.
Good article.
Umm, really? WN = Marxism???? How the hell did you arrive at this conclusion? Marxism is one system of Jewish control (the other being Capitalism) and White Nationalism precludes Jews from being at the helm of society and all institutions and levers of power. Literally mutually exclusive
Nation’s create culture, the foreigner’s so called “religion” and “culture” nor their propositional communistic ideology, creates nation’s! It destroy’s them!!
Preserving the control “religion” and “propositional communistic ideology” that support the Global Usury Empire and it’s global goal of a monoculture of serfdom/borg/slavery, it’s henotheism, and it’s global “monarchy” is certainly not nationalism!! https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/blog/poison-under-the-wings/ psalmistice.com/2017/03/13/the-lawd-of-doubles/
https://psalmistice.com/2017/07/07/cheating-females-the-production-of-inequality-by-illusions-of-equality/
I’m sorry but I don’t pray to, nor worship, the YHWH tranny he-she deity of the Kenite-Midianite foreigner, nor the graven (dead) image of the YHWH he-she tranny’s effete son. https://sacred-texts.com/mas/sof/sof26.htm https://isthatinthebible.wordpress.com/2016/02/05/the-origins-of-yahweh-and-the-revived-kenite-hypothesis/
It’s the biggest “gay op” of all time straight out of Gomorra !!
…. also open borders is part and parcel to continue building the base of borg’s for their global ponzi pyramid usury scheme and is very destructive to nationhood. Good luck with your global messianic monarchy, it’s henotheism, and it’s global slave monoculture.
If you don’t worship the “he she tranny son” then why are you mentioning Gommorah from the Holy Scriptures?
I will pray for you and your mental health. You seem like a house divided.
Virtually none of them are Southerners, anyway. They either reside in Yankeedom proper, her PacRim Colonies, or are Carpetbaggers and Scalawags of one type or another.
But they’re not our people. Or our friends and allies. The only allies we have, if any, are probably the traditionalist normies in the Western states.
One thing that I’ve noticed about these various factions, is that underneath their ideological facades, whatever that happens to be, they’re still the same old Yankees and Northern supremacists.
They still conflate the Northern States and themselves with the United States, and with the federal government. They’re also Northern Nationalists, which the conflate with American Nationalism, or else hotly deny altogether.
Pardon my possible ignorance here, but I do not understand the perception of WN as an enemy to Southern Nationalists. Perhaps I am too new to the scene to know of some of the people the article alludes to, but I know of no WNs (prominent or otherwise) who hate Southerners, their heritage and interests. I also no of none who can still take PayPal or credit cards – they’ve all been deplatformed (in violation of their rights under the Civil Rights Act, but I digress).
I am a regular reader of this site and enjoy many articles by the author, and am not a Southerner, have never even been there, and am not an American. I do however support and have common cause with true nationalists in all countries where people of white European descent are being replaced, dispossessed, oppressed and outright genocided, and the only way to stop and reverse this is through unity. Yes, separate ethnicities and nations exist within the broader white race, nut enemies we need not be.
Thank you for comments and contribution, Peter.
Regarding the WN/SN divide in the United States, there is a large – but not necessarily majority – contingent within the WN community that is opposed to a free and independent South. They believe a broader White ethnostate (e.g., an EU type, pan-White entity) is the ideal; a free South interrupts that idealized future. Some, including former friends and colleagues, have decided to dox and attack our organization because we do not subscribe to that belief.
Overall, I think most White Nationalists do not necessarily hate the idea of a free South, they just prioritize race over ethnicity. In general, most of my brothers in ID believe that is a failed long term strategy because tribal links at a local (ethnic) level are easier to maintain for the sake of a cohesive resistance to modernity and cultural replacement. Broad racial allegiances lend themselves to internal divisions that disrupt group cohesion. I hope that clarifies the position.
Hi Padraig,
Thank you for the reply. That does make sense, but the problem/dilemma we are all in is a global one, not restricted to any locality, and the enemy’s game plan is exactly the same across the board. As such, it seems logical to me that broader white alliances must be made (ESPECIALLY in the beginning phases) with the understanding that regional, ethnic, cultural particulars vary and should be respected. It’s a delicate balancing act – the need for unity/cohesion for strength in numbers and consolidating resources while not falling into the trap of multiculturalism/melting pot/mosaic/mixed bag of humanity.
The only entities I consider true enemies on the “right” are outright shills, grifters, the GOP, but I repeat myself.
Anyways, I enjoy the site, and your work, and generally support and sympathize with Southerners, and hold out hope we get through this victorious and together in harmony at the end. May we all Hail Victory one day together, Worldwide!!!!!!
Padraig,
Thank you for an excellent essay. Your content is consistently good.
As for this: “The irony of the so-called Marxist-inspired “Resistance” is that it enjoys the full support of the U.S. Government, monied elites, and big corporations. They are not resisting anything. AntiFa is the Establishment. ”
I would add that they also enjoy support of many state and local governments. Washington/Seattle, Oregon/Portland, most of Cali, and surprisingly, even Omaha. RIP Jake Gardner.
Good morning, Kentucky Gent
I agree wholeheartedly, which further reinforces the fact that our two peoples – Southern and Other – are divorced irreconcilably.
Who are the White Nationalists with PayPal accounts?
“Neither them, nor their broad coalition of leftist activists, are remotely capable of understanding Southern Nationalism, or even sectional nationalism in general.”
Ironic, given that at various
times they espouse Northern Nationalism, which has been deliberately conflated by the 19th Century Yankees with American Nationalism. Which they don’t recognise as such, and flatly deny, when they do, or are confronted with it by Southern Nationalists.
“The U.S. Government chose extraordinary violence to suppress that Constitutional right.”
Which brings up a question that I don’t think that anybody has asked, or confronted Neo- Yankees with;
Why were the Northern People so enthusiastic, even to the point of genocidal mania, about prosecuting a ruthless war against their supposed “fellow Americans” in the Southern States? Yet their performance in America’s wars, up to 1860, against serious foreign enemies, had been poor to non-existent.
Similarly, their poor enlistment rates, post 1973, when the draft ended, belies their claims to being America’s primary champions and defenders, while all others shirk that duty(they claim), and the truest, bluest, most loyal and most patriotic of all Americans, because they “defended America” against the South.
Good morning, Mr. Owen,
You are thoroughly correct. Yankees literally assisted the British during the War of 1812, refused to support the South during the War with Mexico, and even cut off funding during the settlement battles of the 1830s – such as those with the Seminole and Cherokee tribes. Lincoln’s “Spot Resolution” made that detestable, Marxist character more unacceptable to Southern voters than any public stance he held regarding slavery (most of which was status quo rhetoric prior to his invasion). The fact is, today the South has become a janisary class, absolved the yankee of any responsibility for collective defense. That is changing, as fewer Southern boys proportionately opt for military service.
My 3 Rebel sons will not be joining the U.S. military. They will, however, take up arms to defend their homes against a Biden/Harris Federal onslaught, as their ancestors did from 1861-65.
And what about the onslaught from the other slice of bread of the Kosher sandwich/wing of the controlled opposition? The GOP (Trump or no Trump) are no friends of whites anywhere in the world (and particularly whites in the Southern US). They are beholden to the same Jewish masters and serve them with possibly even more fervor.
Good morning to you, too, Mr. Martin.
Some Neo-Yankee on Twitter claimed that he saw recruiting stats that showed that there were far more recruits from the states that had gone to war against the South in 1861, than recruits from the South and the West. And that the belief that the military was largely Southern and to a lesser extent, Western, was mistaken.
As an aside, indirectly regarding Mr. Lincoln and the Mexican American war, Illinoisans seem to have a special hate for Texas, for some reason, and regard themselves as our sworn enemies. Or at least, the Neo-Yankee idiots among them do.
That’s something I have long been curious about, Chicago, Illinois, the land of Lincoln, from what I gather has always been the beating heart of Marxism in America. They lust after my beloved New Orleans constantly, try to steal our culture from music, especially delta blues, to Jazz, art style and everything else. Chicago yankee trash has been floating down the Mississippi for a long time, I can’t stand them.
Its where the Marxist training schools are, its where Obama taught and where Allinsky spread his cancer. They even made the second “stock exchange” which is just the straw Yankees use to suck the life blood from the States, in Chicago. Its where the Communist Party USA has its headquarters and much, much more.
I could go on and on, but over my lifetime I have time and time again traced all manner of this evil right back to Chicago, in the land of Lincoln. I heard that Illinois is where the Marxists that where being chased from Europe fled, but I don’t know.
I am very curious about this, I don’t know if anyone has ever fleshed it out and could explain to me about those people in that region, but there is no doubt they are a very large head on the many headed hydra that is Marxism, and they are moving South. If anyone can maybe steer me in the right direction to explain it, I would greatly appreciate it.
Hello Michael,
Great question. Chicago, as the effective capital of the upper Midwest, is the cultural epicenter of the land into which a group broadly labeled “The 48ers” emigrated. The 48ers were Marxist revolutionaries from Continental Europe, especially Germany, in 1848. The vast majority were exiled after their failed revolutionary coup, with most arriving into the United States. These predominantly German immigrants settled in the Midwest with socialist biases – and built societies and cities around those ideals with their similarly ideological Scandinavian kin. Their descendants have largely held onto those Marxist tendencies.
This group not only forms the bedrock of the labor union left, but also – ironically – underpins many White Nationalists (especially of German and Scandinavian Midwest extraction) who embrace leftist economic policies, loose social values, but racial integrity. All of those people despise the South because they see the South as a breakwall within the United States for their eventual march toward a Marxist conclusion.
In 1938, the Communist Party of the USA held its convention in Chicago featuring Lincoln as its ideological inspiration. By contrast, the Fascist Party of the United States in 1938 featured George Washington (aristocratic federalist military man) as its ideological inspiration at its convention in New York City. This shows a very clear regional distinction between two immigrant-driven cities and their perspectives on the South.
I hope that helps.
Thank you for reading Identity Dixie!
Best regards,
Padraig Martin