The Origins of a National Collapse

It continues to shock me how many writers postulate theories of civilizational or national collapse that propose a physical cause as the reason a decline occurs.

  • “All civilizations collapse because of bad economics!” says libertarians and people like Ray Dalio and Mancur Olson.
  • “Civilizations collapse because of bad politics!” says Machiavellians and modern leftists.
  • “Civilizations collapse because of some biology data we just uncovered!” says the Jim Penman and biohistory/human biodiversity guys.
  • “Civilizations collapse because of loss of morals/religion!” says the Boomers and the new guys around the block.

Yet none of these groups, however well-intentioned, seem to realize the most basic realization of all regarding national collapse. This realization is simple: If you can see or study a physical ailment, then the decline is already occurring.

The true collapse must have already started before the physical component is even noticeable. The physical symptom cannot be the illness, because it is the symptom.

Something else had to have already degenerated to allow that physical illness to rise to the surface enough for us to see it.

  • Bad economics definitely contributes to an increasingly faster collapse. But fiscal policy did not start the fall. Most of the libertarian types preferred the fiscal environment of the early Americas. What changed to allow the economic environment to change?
  • Bad politics definitely leads to stupid laws and hilarious absurdities during a decline, but it does nothing to begin the process. Why were the leaders once decent, but now they are bad? What actually changed?
  • Biological changes in a population are immensely harmful, especially when they stem from massive immigration. In many cases, it is the death knell for civilizations. But it does not start the fall. Usually, mass immigration is a very late-stage physical ailment of a declining nation. It does nothing at its beginning. Something else changes that weakens the homogeneous nation to allow immigrants in the first place.
  • The same goes for morals and religion—Once a moral decline happens, the fall has already been underway for quite some time. Morality is downstream of the prevailing soul/culture of a people. It can only reflect what the people allow it to reflect.

There are three essentials that make up societies: nation (people), system, and soul. The origin of the decline is found in the last one: the national soul. The system (or in this case, systems) can only change if the soul degrades first. There is a spiritual nature to all things that lead the physical.

  • The collective soul of the people must be changed to a more wicked version to shift the morality, which we can then see with declining rates of religiosity and changing moral positions.
  • The collective soul of the men must be weakened to an effeminate and apathetic condition to allow migrants to flood in with no pushback.
  • The collective soul must be trampled on and subjugated or made to feel inferior/needing authority to permit bad leaders instead of harshly dealing with them.
  • The collective soul must be made greedy, covetous, abundant, and/or entitled to allow the economic environment to degenerate, which can then be quantifiably studied.

Nation-states start the decline with the soul of their people. Their collective soul is altered from what it once was, regardless of the unique conditions (biology, heritage, blood, and on) that built it in the first place. This soul then degenerates through various mechanisms, which is what produces the beginning of the political collapse of nations and states.

Everything else is a physical ailment—a noticeable symptom—of this bedrock collapse. The people’s own spiritual nature itself changes. Our soul is even more than just beliefs, goals, desires, mindset, outlook, faith, trust, hopes, understanding of the world, feelings, intellect, and on and on. It is the animating force that directs us. It encompasses and expands off of each of these particular characteristics of the heart/mind/spirit. This is imperative to understand.

George MacDonald once said: “You don’t have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body.”

The exact same applies for nation-states. A nation does not have a soul. The nation is a soul. They have a state/governing systems/country/etc. Just like how you grow, evolve, and change, so to do nation-states. But the inverse is true as well: since we can devolve, so can nation-states.

Just like as humans, this is not a linear line. The more degenerate we are, the faster we fall even further. It increases as the condition gets worse. Consider a drug junkie. The individual does not start off completely lost and immediately jumps into Kensington Ave condition. They start off normal, get a little rough over time, gradually reach a major tipping point, and then nosedive from that point. This is why America has gotten so much rougher over the past three decades, while the pace seemed much more moderate in the past. It is because we are in the nosedive point right now.

As Christians, we believe that the souls of men last forever. The national soul is the collective soul (emergent, not reductionist) of the individuals that reside within that nation.

God judges nations by this collective soul all throughout the Bible. He did it constantly with Israel. This should not be negated or overlooked. Israel’s soul changed, which caused the physical ailments (such as idol worship or eating in an unclean fashion), that then invoked God’s wrath and punishment.

If modern materialists lived back then, they would postulate that the decline arose because the Israelites had too much meat for dinner or spent too much money on golden idols. But that would be (hilariously) wrong. It completely misses the point, just like how they miss the greater picture even today. It is a spiritual decline first, then the physical symptoms arise.

The national collapse starts with the spirit and ends with the physical results. Until more people recognize this, they will keep being led astray by secular materialist theories. Trying to cure or prevent one physical symptom (economics, biology, public morality, etc.) will do nothing to stop the degeneration of the soul. The collapse will still occur, just using different pathways.

What we are seeing now is not the beginning (or even the intermediate stage) of the American decline, but the late stage. The symptoms prove that we have had this illness for a long time.

That spiritual disease just laid dormant for a while, but now we are quickly becoming terminally septic.

-By Kaisar

3 comments

  1. Judging from the first paragraph following the bullet points, I’m going to guess the author is familiar with Evola’s “Men Among The Ruins”

    All of this “we need laws to prevent degenerates from doing XYZ” misses the point, as the author wisely points out

    That being said: smartphones, social media, and easily accessible pornography are an absolutely fundamental game-changer. There’s never been this level of degeneration in the past. Like, we could imagine people in Ancient Rome going to see weird sex acts at a theater 🎭 during the decadent late phase of the empire, but that was actually very mild compared to what’s available today in the palm of your hand via smartphone. You didn’t really have people who “worked from home” back then either, so people at least had to develop or maintain SOME social skills. Not so today

  2. The really should promote you from a guest writer to a regular contributor. Excellently done article; I didn’t even think of the relation between the dying soul of a nation and comparing it to the ancient Israelites turning from God and embracing Baal and engaging in other unclean acts which separated them from their covenant.

  3. You wrote: “There is a spiritual nature to all things that lead the physical.” Well said.

    Richard Weaver also expounded on the biblical truth that as a man “thinketh in his heart, so is he.” -Prov. 23:7:

    “Like Macbeth, Western man made an evil decision, which has become the efficient and final cause of other evil decisions. It occurred in the late fourteenth century, and what the witches said to the protagonist of this drama was that man could realize himself more fully if he would only abandon his belief in the existence of transcendentals. The powers of darkness couched this proposition in the seemingly innocent form of an attack upon universals. The defeat of logical realism in the great medieval debate was the crucial event in the history of Western culture; from this flowed those acts which issue now in modern decadence. It was William of Occam who propounded the fateful doctrine of nominalism, which denies that universals have a real existence. The issue ultimately involved is whether there is a source of truth higher than, and independent of, man; and the answer to the question is decisive for one’s view of the nature and destiny of humankind. The denial of everything transcending experience means inevitably – though ways are found to hedge on this – the denial of truth. The witches were actually initiating a course which cuts one off from reality – from all fixed truth. If physical nature is the totality and if man is of nature, it is impossible to think of him as suffering from constitutional evil; his defections must now be attributed to his simple ignorance or to some kind of social deprivation.” pp. 2-4.

    Richard Weaver, ‘Ideas Have Consequences’

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