In many ways, Alex Jones is an interesting figure, if nothing else, because he pioneered the use of the internet to spread dissident political ideas and because almost everyone dislikes him. That the Left and normie Right dislike him goes without saying, but even in dissident circles the man is a polarizing figure. White Nationalists scorn him for his color-blind constitutionalism and his lack of interest in the “Jewish Question,” while many of the more religiously focused sections of the Dissident Right, mostly traditional Catholics, Orthodox, and some assorted Protestant theocrats, disapprove him ignoring the importance of religion.
I know a great number of libertarians who soured on him for his Trump worship. Even folks who generally agree with him think he does more harm than good due to his extreme showmanship. I’ve even heard several people wonder if Jones is paid opposition since he’s presenting true claims but doing so in such a way that he comes across as an unhinged lunatic. As for me, personally, I think he’s been correct enough that he can’t be dismissed as simply a guy with a microphone, but I don’t think he’s a willing participant in any kind of government scheme, either. More likely, I think his sources are a series of feds posing as good patriots, feeding him information, and then letting him run wild with it. And, Jones goes about presenting it in such a way that it can be easily dismissed.
I’ve thought this for some time but following his trial has further solidified in my mind that this is the case. If he was a willing agent of the NWO (“New World Order”), they would not be throwing him under the bus like this. As is often the case, he would simply be ignored. What it looks like finally happened is that he outlived his usefulness and, rather than killing him, they are going to financially ruin him and also send a warning to other dissidents.
In case you have not been following, here is the quick version – right after the Sandy Hook shooting, Jones began to claim it was a false flag designed to push gun control and that the victims were crisis actors. The families of some of the victims sued Jones for defamation, especially after they were harassed by some of Jones’ followers, which is where we are today. For the record, I don’t think that Jones is right about Sandy Hook being a false flag, and it certainly wasn’t staged. I think our society is sick enough to produce men capable of murdering children in cold blood.
But, what is happening to Jones goes beyond what he said or the value of his words, neither the words themselves nor his presentation. The Jones case is significant because it looks like it is going to be his end. The case is not going well for him and, even in the unlikely scenario he does win, he will likely be up to his eyeballs in debt to pay his legal fees – meaning, it’s the end of him either way. It will be one of the biggest takedowns of a prominent dissident the Establishment has secured in quite some time, and will be used as a model moving forward.
The ruling elite used to employ much more uncomplicated and straightforward methods for taking down dissidents, they would simply ban their work. Though this was much harder to do in the United States than elsewhere in the world, thanks to the First Amendment, outright censorship was still used in the U.S. Just to name one example, Franklin Delano Roosevelt forced Father Coughlin off the air when World War II broke out in Europe in 1939 and would later ban his periodical, Social Justice, from being mailed. FDR didn’t like Fr. Coughlin for going after the banks, Jews, war profiters, and even FDR himself.
Today, they don’t commonly outright prohibit someone from mailing their work. Instead, the Establishment, in partnership with mainstream Big Tech, utilize methods that range from banning on social media platforms to simply knocking something off the first page of a Google search. These are the most common tactics, but they can also only go so far, largely thanks to alternative platforms like Gab popping up. Therefore, legal warfare is needed to take down what Big Tech cannot, and that is why the Jones trial is so important – it’s a test case for what will happen to dissidents.
No matter what one may think of Alex Jones himself, his message, his underlying philosophy, what he doesn’t say, or his style, all dissidents must take note of his situation. This is what the future will look like. Most dissidents will just be banned, of course. However, others will not go down so easily, and that is where lawfare comes in. Wait until something happens, let the dissident say the wrong thing, and pounce. Or, alternatively, connect the dissident you want to take down to some sort of crime and get them that way. Jones is just the canary in the coal mine for what is coming. Even if you beat them, it will be a pyrrhic victory and they know it. You will still be buried with too many legal fees to be a threat anymore. Rather than shooting you, and thus producing a martyr, they’ve now created a broken person who will be in debt for the rest of their life. A person whose life is essentially over. It will be a living death and, in many ways, a fate worse than death. And, the Establishment knows all of this.
Dissidents must be prepared. They will be using the playbook they have on Jones for anyone they deem to much of a threat. Jones has said and done enough things to make him an easy target, so he is the perfect test case. But more is coming, and it will be sooner rather than later.
I never cared much for Alex Jones, I must admit; I can barely stand to listen to him speak for more than five minutes at a time, tbh. But, like you, I strongly disbelieve he is working for the feds. By the same token, I never really liked Limbaugh (RIP) much either. One of my AF comrades turned me onto Limbaugh way back in 1990 or whatever, thinking I would like him because he was “conservative like us”; couple of weeks later my friend asked me what I thought of Rush. I answered that “he is way too liberal for my blood!” I was only half-joking when I said that. I would listen to his shows sporadically afterwards, but never regularly. He also stole my “leftier than thou” coinage several years later. I can never forgive him for that. *wink, wink*
Interesting article. I haven’t been following the Jones kerfuffle, but of course knew about it. You are right about the probable outcome, I should think. Kessler is good case in point as well.
I’d put Jones and Limbaugh into different camps. I NEVER liked Limbaugh: too much into the false paradigm of democrat/republican and the accepted narrative on slavery as the cause of the WBTS, but Jones has put out some good stuff on 911, Gulf of Tonkin, etc. that’s not straight republican party line. That said, I’ve seen him retreat from standing by an uncomfortable position, evidencing that “they got to him.” I think you’re analysis is correct that he’s outlived his usefulness to them (just like the U.S. has) and now they’re going to ruin him.
To be fair, there’s a difference between what Limbaugh actually thinks or was capable of articulating, and what he would say on-air. At one point he flat-out admitted to “carrying water” for the Republicans.
As someone who listened to him daily for many years, while most of his show was basically pre-planned, there would occasionally be “go-off” bits where his high intelligence would shine through.
Usually, these were relating to life-experience events and not politics, or he’d tie life lessons he’d learned in with some news event. But they clearly weren’t pre-planned and were, by far, the exception rather than the rule
Jones mistakes that PMNN ( Padraig Martin News Network ) can learn from :
1. Drinks too much coffee & energy drinks and talks too fast – also talks over and interrupts guests.
2. WAY too many ads … WAY too often.
3. Tries to be Mr. “I love all races creeds nationalities etc.,” … as they replace us.
4. Doesn’t have enough – if any – investigative journalists which could’ve saved him from this lawfare. There was some sort of weird “drill” after Sandy Hook that was filmed. Maybe that was to set up folks like Jones? We KNOW most of these things ARE false flags to attack the 2nd Amendment. Hook “appeared” to be another one.
5. Like all the other talk show hosts he has a 3 hour show!!! WHO … has 3 hours to hear the news? It should be 1 hour … 2 at most. 2 is good.
6. Saved the best for last. Like aallll other news shows NEVER FOR THE LIFE OF THEM DO THEY OR EVEN ANY GUEST THEY HAVE ON EVER PRESENT EVEN 1 “SOLUTION!”
What Jones and others can do to really succeed and really help America :
1. Get frivolous lawsuit insurance and other forms of legal insurance. Also, build a lawfare fund.
2. SHOW why / how your supplements are THE BEST. Not just some white labelled crud you SAY is the best. Then go all out promoting it.
3. Make your show 2 hours and don’t try to out do yesterdays show. If it’s a slow news day it’s a slow news day. We want “intell” … not fireworks.
4. KNOW your audience is 90% WHITE and we’ve had it up to here. Present your SOLUTION for a “restructured America,” our section being an all white CSA II. Or get off the air. If not you’re nothing more than the Fox News of alt media.
Re #5: the thing about *radio* shows, as opposed to podcasts, is that basically nobody except old fogies sitting in their nursing home room actually listens to all 3 hours daily.
What actually happens is that blue collar guys like me will turn on the radio when they’re riding in the work van in-between stops and catch 20 minutes here, a half hour there, etc.
Because these shows are really repetative, because there’s only so much news and so much commentary you can do on the news, even if you miss several days worth of shows, you’ll be able to catch up pretty quick the next time you tune-in
“FDR didn’t like father coughlin”
FDR also didn’t like this book being distributed and had it suppressed. “NO GOD NEXT DOOR: Red rule in Mexico and our responsibility” Michael Kenny S.J. 1935 Here’s an excerpt. P.122
“….and he had won the battle of Jimenez inflicting 4,000 casualties on the Calles(red)forces, when American combat planes threw tons of asphyxiating gas bombs and Incendiary grenades on the rebel troops and converted Victory into rout. Again Calles was saved from inevitable defeat by timely assistance from Washington, and this “Yanqui victory” as it was termed in Mexico, is still bitterly remembered.”
I have always thought Alex Jones was more of a Talmudic suggestive programmer, a mind conditioner for the Moneyed Class. 20 years ago I would listen to him on short wave radio. I had OD’d on red pills at that time, so maybe I’m a little hard on that guy.
Jones is a good dude. He may not be as far on the dissident spectrum as us, but he’s definitely not a fed.
Not everyone can be as correct as we are, but we shouldn’t encourage or toss other people that are correct overall or generally right-wingers to the wolves. If we do, there will only be about 30 of us left.
That is a major problem with our types, that we believe that everyone should believe every single thing we do or they are disposable. Eventually, if we are to win, we’ll have to get overall that prideful mindset.
Good article.
Yeah, definitely. It comes down to right-wing vs left-wing neurotypes.
Right-wingers are inherently more individualist, uptight, and purity-spiraly, whereas left-wingers are inherently more pro-social.
E.G., back when the anti-war movement was in full swing, prior to when Obama took office in 2008, you would have a broad-base leftist coalition of everyone from: college students, Antifa, Code Pink (older women), the Communist Party USA, hippies, and one-issue voters taking part in the same demonstration.
None of the groups would throw any of the other groups under the bus. They would all work together for a common cause even though many of them low-key hated each other, and no group tried to pressure any other group into escalating the demonstration past their comfort zone.
You would have drug addled punk rocker Antifa types providing security for the bourgeois White suburban anti-war moms instead of attacking them for “not being sufficiently revolutionary”.
The right-wing would do well to learn from the leftist example.
Should we all watch Fox News … because we don’t want to throw them to the wolves?
The Titanic is sinking. IS … sinking. The house IS on fire. Whoever doesn’t want to find life rafts …. whoever doesn’t want to put the fire out … TOSS THEM TO THE WOLVES.
It’s secession time. It’s solution time. It’s restructuring America time. It’s enlarged all white CSA II time. Any supposed news site NOT on board … to the wolves.
The alternative? Continue as boiling frogs because we don’t want to hurt Alex Jones “centrist” feelings because he did do “some good in the past.”
Get out of the boiling water and build the south you all love chat about …with tea ready and pinkies out. I LOVE the boat shoe beat. I LOVE the southern nostalgia Mr. Morris writes about. Let’s REBUILD the south … so we can enjoy these things daily. “I” will even join you in the tea and talk rooms and yes … with pinkie out!
Alex Jones only did “some good in the past?”
For so many people, including yours truly, my real entry into dissident politics, “conspiracy theories”, etc was via the Ron-Paul-to-Alex-Jones pipeline back in the late 2000s.
Ron Paul -> libertarianism -> Alex Jones -> alt-right -> the post-2017 dissident right movement -> this article you’re reading here right now
None of us would be here without these people. Just as Southerners shouldn’t throw their slave importing ancestors under the bus because they made literally the single biggest mistake in New World history in bringing those un-assimilatible people (i.e. Blacks) here, we shouldn’t throw AJ under the bus either just because he refused to name the you-know-whos and actually even married one. Had he done that, he wouldn’t have gotten *any* sort of mainstream traction and influenced all of us, directly or indirectly.
That’s a French Revolution style POV wherein each successively more radical government throws the previous revolutionaries under the bus.
Benjamin, you wrote:
Who told you that? Whoever it was, you’ve been lied to, Benjamin. And you’ve apparently internalized the lie.
If any of that were true, you might have a pretty good point. But it isn’t true, as I’ve pointed out … countless times, here and elsewhere. For the guilty parties who brought those unassimilable people to these shores and dumped them on the South, look no further than Mother England and New England shippers. Those are your guilty parties. Stop listening to the liars and blaming our Southern ancestors for something they had no part in.
AJ is a megaphone that is sorely needed, much like Tucker. Who fills their shoes when they are gone? These types serve a purpose even though they aren’t the right tool for every job. Steyn knows about weaponized lawfare and I thought that maybe he survived it but his job at GB makes me wonder about that. The danger of sticking your head up is obvious and we should do a better job of protecting our canaries, the fact that it is even required just proves the rot in the system.
What good are the Jones of news society AFTER most sheeple are informed? So … we ARE sinking on The Titanic. Our house IS burning down … and not a single Alex Jones type utters ANY solution let alone the obvious one. Infowars and all the others … listen closely …
Inundate the sheeple with information and overwhelm them into inaction.
Okay? WHILE we burn … WHILE we sink … WHILE we ( frogs ) boil … we’re inundated with info. Why nothing about the solution? Because kiss a&& Jones and others have been successfully brainwashed to be afraid of being called a name!!!!!!!!! Racist. 🙂
AFTER you’ve been basically informed … Jones and others are useless pansy disgraces. Does the king have beautiful clothes or is he naked. Jones ‘ignores’ the question.
Restructuring ( secession and the creation of an enlarged all white CSA II ), is the answer. ANY supposed news pundit NOT loudly shouting this from his podium is a punk. A paper tiger.
Dear Josey, let me “aks” you a serious question re: your constant, unrelenting rhetoric per THE ONLY SOLUTION, in your iteration.
My question is simply as follows: is there another person – one solitary individual other than Josey W. – inside (or even outside) dissident or Southern Nationalist circles, who espouses your view and, more importantly, who can articulate it in finer detail than the broad, nebulous terms in which you espouse it? If so, please be so kind as to name such individual.
I strongly suspect not; indeed; I strongly suspect this “solution” of yours to be a figment of your overactive, uneducated imagination. But, I mean, if I am wrong in that, please, by all means, provide us with examples to look to. Otherwise, either shut up, or, better still, take the lead in all of this and write a Southern Nationalist “manifesto” we can all get behind and support.
*Cue the unhinged insults, libels, the extreme individualism and all the rest, as per the usual.
🙂 I don’t know why I even sometimes respond to such retardation. It might be subconscious? By responding to flunkies … I’m informing other less intelligent less informed readers? Mm.
Everyone look at the clown in ring 2. AS we sink on the Titanic he wonders if there’s even one solitary person on the ship who wants to find something that floats! AS our house IS burning he wonders if there’s a single solitary person – other than me – who wants to find a water hose to put out the fire! As I yell “find something that floats,” and “over here’s a water hose,” HE says I should shut up or create a manifesto on HOW to do these things!!! 🙂 Yes ladies and gentlemen … as you enjoy your peanuts popcorn and hotdogs, nevermind the clown in ring 2. He’s either ignorant or a paid troll. Or … just a goofball?
Anyone that’s informed and has a brain KNOWS we need to act. It starts with “conversation.” “Restructuring” must become household table talk in every white home. THEN … groups of us need to slowly carefully massage a manifesto into existence. “I” have a LOT of answers, but not all the answers. I think if I and a few like Padraig Martin met with 10 to 20 others, each with unique necessary knowledge that we don’t have, we could probably come up with a first draft in a month or 2. Likely with careful honing and polishing ‘of that draft,’ a “perfect blueprint” could be complete in another couple months or so. It would take prayer, research and debate.
For this to happen we need ALL OF YOU to get everyone you know to get everyone they know … to start the conversation. Those are your marching orders.
Now … back to ring 2 …
*sigh*
I’ve always been suspicious of people that think everything is fake: Parkland, Sandy Hook, Geaorge Floyd. Raising a flag on your ship that is not your own is not difficult, its easy to explain to the crew, and isn’t much of a lie if confronted with it later.
But to be an actor pretending that your child was murdered? How does that work? Lets say these actors are paid 10 million each, are they really that psychologically advanced that they could spend their lives continuing to consistently lie?
THe crisis actor/false flag people only look at videos and say, “look, see that, thats fake blood” or ” see that smile, a grieving parent wouldn’t smile” but there is never any attempt to explain the huge backstory, and how it goes forward.
The story has got to be doable. 911 is another one.